MSNBC’s The 11th Hour
01/22/25
11:09 PM
[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: TRUMP PRIORITIZES IMMIGRATION, BORDER IN WH RETURN]
STEPHANIE RUHLE: Let’s talk about immigration, though, because Donald Trump- already pushing, you know, sweeping changes. And he says-
DAVID JOLLY: Yeah-
RUHLE: “Immigration won me the election. It’s what the American people want.” And he has somewhat of a point that the American people have moved further to the right-
JOLLY: Yeah, yeah I know-
RUHLE: But- But he- Have they moved where he’s taken the ball?
JOLLY: Donald Trump won 49-48 and politics is the art of framing. So if you say that there’s a criminal with an outstanding warrant who needs to be deported, 80 percent of the country will say, “yeah, that’s great.”
RUHLE: 90 percent.
JOLLY: Yeah, 90 percent. If you say, I’m going to go to a school or church and rip a sixth grade daughter away from…
